Curse

tom999 · Sep 09, 2009, 07:57 PM // 19:57

is any1 else fed up with the fact these Z quests just go through the same bosses and missions time over time?

why not have Havok Soulwail as a bounty instead of 10 BauBao Wavewrath's?

or maybe Divinty Coast as a mission instead of 10 million fort ranik's?

A bit more variation is needed in these quests

Just my 2 cents

what do the rest of you think?

Dorny · Sep 09, 2009, 08:38 PM // 20:38

I want great northern wall :x

But yeah, some missions are coming round for their 2nd time, and some havent come at all.

Pony Slaystation · Sep 09, 2009, 08:39 PM // 20:39

I'm getting sick of it too. From what I heard, however, they were supposed to cycle more, to allow a greater variety, but in one of the updates, the counter was reset so a lot of the quests started being run again.

Rhadamanthys · Sep 09, 2009, 08:42 PM // 20:42

yup....i can't stand those early 4-6 man proph areas!

Black Metal · Sep 09, 2009, 08:47 PM // 20:47

lo rhada love the "but I want the red truck!" av

on topic: laziness, the same laziness that causes Nick to have the 'Insert trophy prize dialogue here' box

HawkofStorms · Sep 09, 2009, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Well... to be fair... there are only so many missions in the game. Those have to run out eventually.

As for z-bounties... yeah, they could add more of those, but its fine as is. It's not like I'm able to do every z-mission on every character every day.

sykoone · Sep 09, 2009, 09:06 PM // 21:06

They've already been through all the missions once, except for Pogahn Passage, so you're going to see repeats of those from here on out. However, I do agree there needs to be more bounties. Every boss needs his turn in the crosshairs.

zelgadissan · Sep 09, 2009, 09:17 PM // 21:17

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Originally Posted by sykoone

Every boss needs his turn in the crosshairs.

I would definitely disagree, I don't want to have to enter a Prophecies zone five times and not find the bounty boss at all. Too many bad memories from skill capping.

I also wouldn't want to see bosses like Arrahhsh Mountainclub that are two steps out of a town that every character is required to go to (assuming they've made it that far through the storyline). I know there are a couple similar bosses that are bounties (Fenrir, Mungri Magicbox, etc.) but those aren't even fun, they're just Zcoin/rep farms.

In theory I agree with the OP that we need more variety, but the number of quality bosses really aren't that high, and there's only a certain number of missions.

kedde · Sep 09, 2009, 09:20 PM // 21:20

There are what, 65 or so missions in the game.
What the hell do you expect.

After releasing the zquests there's been several months with a different quest every day, they run the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO out and need to cycle through them again.

Reformed · Sep 09, 2009, 09:30 PM // 21:30

To OP, as many have said it was bound to recycle due to limited content. Smartest thing to do would probably be to get your packs or w/e and just take a break if it's wearing on you.

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Originally Posted by zelgadissan

I would definitely disagree, I don't want to have to enter a Prophecies zone five times and not find the bounty boss at all. Too many bad memories from skill capping.

It's really those Perdition bosses that are problematic...the rest are fairly reliable. We could wind up with things like Plog Hamfist...in spite of numerous attempts I've never even seen that boss spawn. The main wiki doesn't even have a location map

Captain Bulldozer · Sep 09, 2009, 09:38 PM // 21:38

There are a total of 69 primary missions: Prophecies has 25, Factions has 13, Nightfall has 20 and EotN has 11. With the exception of Pogahn Passage, all of these have been offered as z-missions. The was a thread a while back that Pogahn accidentally got left off the list, and perhaps would be added later at some point. Given that the z-quests were implemented only at the end of April, we've barely had 3 months worth of quests. So its only natural that some of the missions have come up only 1 time... in another month and a half you MIGHT expect them all to have come up twice, depending on the randomness of the quest order. For having more missions, what other options are there? Add in some of the challenge missions? Sounds lame to me.

As for the bosses, as I recall there are something like 66 different boss quests. This could certainly be raised, but with the random spawning of prophecies bosses that would really suck to have to keep trying to find the same boss. Other bosses, like those in noobie areas are kind of silly to have as quests... On the other hand, it is kinda weird that they have quests for foes that aren't even bosses (like Charged Blacknesses wtf lol). Might be nice to have them add some more boss quests though... would be funny if Magini the Bison came up for example.

In short, this is a finite game, and the z-quest system takes several months to cycle through. Seems like plenty to me. Now, if they would only go back and make a lot of the normal quests worth doing...

The Josip · Sep 09, 2009, 10:14 PM // 22:14

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Originally Posted by Rhadamanthys

yup....i can't stand those early 4-6 man proph areas!

I love them, they are great. And some are among the best missions in the entire game (Thirsty River for instance, which is one of my favorite).

4-6 man missions tend to be more tactical, which is good.

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Originally Posted by tom99

is any1 else fed up with the fact these Z quests just go through the same bosses and missions time over time?

Well, don't play them there. It's simple. I mean, what did you expect, that there will be more Z missions than there is missions in the game?

Carn Angmar · Sep 09, 2009, 10:21 PM // 22:21

For those of you who don't read the User Talk pages, here's why you're seeing the Z-Quests repeat (keep in mind it was an accident and those usually happen when you're overworked):

We are aware of the shuffle that occurred with the available Zquests after the build. This one was my fault, I fixed a couple bugs in ones that had not come up yet and what I did has the side effect of restarting the whole system. I should have then had Joe instruct me in the special-coder-math that is needed to force the Zquests which are active the day of the build to be the first set available after the system reset, but I overlooked that step. I apologize for the inconvenience, but don't worry, those same quests will all come up again eventually. Since the issue would go away after half a day, I didn't feel it was necessary to put the team through the whole emergency build process just for this. Again, I'm sorry about all the confusion it has caused, I hope you all forgive me. =/ - Image:User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey

For the full story see http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...d_to_happen.3F

zelgadissan · Sep 09, 2009, 10:23 PM // 22:23

^ That was ages ago. Now we're seeing repeats of stuff after that, which I'm assuming means that all the potential bounties have already been done.

MrGuildBoi · Sep 09, 2009, 10:29 PM // 22:29

yeah I would like to see some proph bosses as bounties like Plopp Squirt lol

Carn Angmar · Sep 09, 2009, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Contrary to what you believe, it wasn't ages ago. :/

zelgadissan · Sep 09, 2009, 10:44 PM // 22:44

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Originally Posted by Carn Angmar

Contrary to what you believe, it wasn't ages ago. :/

Almost three months to the day (June 12th - September 9th) is ages ago. Plus, it still doesn't change the fact that we're done with all the bounties. If you look at the second cycle bounty column (the one after the mix-up you're referring to) in the archive and compare it to the current table, you'll notice it's repeating in exact order since August 16th.

20k says tomorrow's is Joffs the Mitigator.

Edit: after rereading this it may come across like I'm trying to rage at you; that's not the intention, my point is that Linsey's mistake isn't why we're seeing repeat quests anymore.

Kook~NBK~ · Sep 09, 2009, 10:53 PM // 22:53

As has been already stated -there are only so many missions, and there has been plenty of time gone by (even since Lindsey's blunder) for the missions to cycle through.

As for bosses - There are several worthy candidates that aren't in the rotation - especially in EotN, but a lot of bosses are too easily accessible to merit a "quest" to defeat them. (even easier to get to than Fenrir!) There are even a few in factions that may get killed by their enemies before you even get to them! Why get rewarded for that?

SaDuFam · Sep 10, 2009, 02:56 AM // 02:56

Minimal proph bosses for z-bounty please as we will never know where or when most of them would spawn. Repeat re-zoning is not fun.

Windf0rce · Sep 10, 2009, 03:10 AM // 03:10

What? lol.

I'm doing exaclty one Z-Mission per day since July I think, and I am now about 8 missions away from Legendary Guardian.

They do not seem to be repeating until a full cycle completes. It's only your impression that some mission is repeating far more than others...